I had braces; the treatment was a very minor fixes. Wasn't very painful, but Topal himself isn't very gentle and consider with the comfort of his patients. He is also extremely rude to the point where he will insult you if you don't agree with his opinions. His opinions usually include unnecessary treatment in order for him to charge more. His staff is very nice, but they give you the run around because they are working under him and are very slow to resolve finanical issues. the ladies at the front desk are extremely nice and try to be helpful.